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Jeff the liberal punching bag from GA adds this:
I am a proud social liberal. Each time [somebody] else tries to impugn Obama for being a Socialist - I shrug. What's wrong with being Socialist? Ask yourself that each time you pay taxes, because many of your tax dollars directly fund Socialist-style programs, which were instituted by Dems and Reps alike. I have taught several multicultural literature courses. I'm a vegetarian. When it runs, I drive an old beat-up Volvo. In the eyes of many, I am an egghead, sandal-wearing pinko. And I'm fine with that. In other words, if stereotypes hold, I should be singing the praises of the Nobel committee today. Now that you know something about me...
[The critics are] right about the Nobel award [being called a joke]. Obama has not accomplished enough to merit a global award intended to celebrate the most significant peace-fostering activities of the year. Obama has not had TIME to accomplish anything that fits that description. He certainly didn't have time prior to the February deadline. The Nobel committee obviously, egregiously awarded Obama merely because he is an African American man who became president in the U.S. That, I celebrate. But to exalt this man whose presidency has been superficial and indecisive at best is an insult to the other candidates for the award.
Morgan Tsvirangirai was actually beaten by Robert Mugabe's thugs. His wife was killed - dismembered then burned while in the last moments of her life. How did Tsvangirai respond? Non-violently. He convinced Mugabe to form a power-sharing government, which so far has improved life for all Zimbabweans, which can only encourage peace on a continent that is home to more human rights abuses than anyplace on Earth. Are you telling me Obama has done more than THAT guy to promote peace?
And if Obama supporters think this will help the president - you are absolutely wrong. People within the U.S. heaped unreachable expectations on the guy before he was even elected, and now the Nobel committee has made it even worse. At this point, Obama has no hope of fulfilling expectations, which is political disaster. Now, no matter what he does prior to his re-election bid, Republicans can rightfully call him a disappointment, if not a failure.
What a joke! Maybe he'll win the Heisman trophy too ...
ReplyDeletethe Peace Prize is to go to whoever "shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses".
ReplyDeletean argument could be made that obama fulfilled this just by the unification that was seen around his campaign... however, i'm not sure i buy that as enough to garner such a prestigious award.
then again, i think the real 'problem' with this is that the award is seen as prestigious, when it probably shouldn't be.
Jimmy Carter, Al Gore, Barack Obama ... this has become a political football, not a legitimate award of any kind.
ReplyDeleteIt took the Republicans less than twelve days to determine Obama is the worst president ever. Why is that distinction -- in the same abbreviated timeframe -- more plausible than the Nobel Prize?
ReplyDeleteIt's a great big joke that he won the Nobel Peace Prize. The whole world is either laughing out loud - or [democrats] quietly rolling their eyes - at this. Our entire country is waiting for the promised hope & change from Mr. Obama ... and now nine months later, all we get are more attacks on Republicans (including YOU ... 2:52pm). Here's a news flash 2:52 p.m. ... Republicans have been completely out of control for nine months. So get over it already.
ReplyDeleteRepublicans had nothing to do with this particular freakshow.
I should think that Obama would be embarrassed. Doesn't the fact that he hasn't actually done anything, make this an empty award?
ReplyDeleteHave you all forgotten how Bush destroyed the destroyed the credibility of the United States in the foreign leaders of the world? Fox news and the republican following think Obama and his wife has been traveling around the world taking vacations. He has been showing the world that all US presidents are not like GW Bush or even Geo. HW Bush. Remember HW went after Sadam once and couldn't get him. That was GW's main reason for getting military troops in the middle east to begin. Remember the weapons of mass destruction that was such a threat that weren't there. Any excuse to get the military power there.
ReplyDeleteBradley, American presidents are SUPPOSED to defend America, not placate and grovel before the rest of the world. I resent Obama's apologies to the rest of the world for my country---shame on him.
ReplyDeleteThe point, 3:15, is that one of the big criticisms of this announcement is that it came so soon into his Presidency -- just look at the title Darke Journal gave the post. Why is it so unbelievable that the Nobel Prize committee would give him this award after so brief a time when the Republicans decided he was going to damage this country in roughly the same amount of time? Why is one opinion more valid than the other when both of them were made without much deliberation?
ReplyDeleteLet's take this post apart a little bit;
ReplyDelete"Have you all forgotten how Bush destroyed the destroyed the credibility of the United States in the foreign leaders of the world? Fox news and the republican following think Obama and his wife has been traveling around the world taking vacations."
Do you recall the media camping out at Crawford Texas or Kennybunkport when Bush was there?
"He has been showing the world that all US presidents are not like GW Bush or even Geo. HW Bush. Remember HW went after Sadam once and couldn't get him."
There was a valid reason to leave Saddam in power, the west feared (rightly so it seems) an unchecked Iran, Saddam was a counterbalance, and the libs were screaming "slaughter" while our troops were wiping Saddams army out.
"That was GW's main reason for getting military troops in the middle east to begin. Remember the weapons of mass destruction that was such a threat that weren't there. Any excuse to get the military power there"
Bill Clinton had been voicing concern about Iraq and WMD's well before Bush was elected, and there was a whole cadre of Dems that were of the same opinion.
Obama admitted himself this award wasn't deserved based on what he had done. There were 204 candidates for the Nobel Peace Prize this year...I bet most of them have actually accomplished something significant! In many years 2 or 3 candidates share the prize but Obama gets the whole thing for nothing!
ReplyDeleteWhy such a rush to give Obama the prize? Because the Nobel Peace committee is "left of center" and are being political. There is no other reason for them not to wait until the end of his presidency...you know, after there has been time to see if he did anything to make a difference. Clinton did much for peace during his time in office and as of yet has not received the award.
So now the Nobel Peace Prize is a joke. After wins by Roosevelt, the Red Cross, Martin Luther King, Jr, the United Nations, Amnesty International, Mother Teresa, Desmond Tutu, and Nelson Mandela we get Barack Obama, nominated sometime within his first 12 days in office, and taking the win. Going forward the crowning of the "American Idol" will carry more weight than the Peace Prize. Disgraceful.
Obama is a JOKE to the USA.. he is hurting us more then anything and needs to be IMPEACHED ASAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteObama hacked the nobel voting machines. He's hitler and stalin in disguise. Keep up the good fight. Palin in 2012.
ReplyDeletePerceptions are more important than realities. Images are more powerful than words. Ideas are more powerful than bombs. Obama is a black man who is now leader of the free world. He has a Muslim middle name. His wife is a descendant of slaves. BHO preaches multilateralism and finding common ground-domestically and internationally. Historically, the Nobel prize has been used to advance/bring attention to the cause of peace as much as a reward of past conduct. It's easy to argue that this award is premature. I think it is equally easy to argue that, given who BHO is, simply winnning the election and articulating principles of peace, he has already accomplished more for the cause of peace than we have seen in a long time. The problem is the effects of his election/rhetoric may not be visible for a generation. BTW: I hope that my conservative friends realize that BHO isn't even in the running if there is no George W. Bush.
ReplyDeleteI used to think that this "award" was prestigious, but I now know that it is nothing more than a sham. Obama was placed on the ballot less than a month after taking office, and everyone knows that nothing of significant "peace" happened between Jan. 20 and Feb. 15. Everyone also knows that he did nothing on the "front" before becoming president. Since February, he really has not made what I would consider a huge impact on world peace. I suspect the world is either laughing at the U.S. or hating us even more. This has nothing to do with President Bush, the economy, or U.S. politics in general... obama just paid the Nobel Committee more money than he did the Olympic Committee.
ReplyDeleteIntelligence just oozes from most of the readers of this weblog.
ReplyDeleteThe "Palin in 2012" comment takes the cake. I hope like hell she gets the presidency. The fun that would be had in watching that for four years would be incalculable.
2:35, he has to do something illegal before he can be impeached. Everybody always cries that and it just isnt' going to happen. Good grief. While I am an Obama supporter, I'm not sure he was the best choice for the award or not. Perhaps they didn't base it solely on his short time in office but his previous actions. I seem to recall an amazing speech he gave at a previous Democratic Convention about not going to war in the first place. He opposed it strongly. Perhaps THAT was the catalyst for the award. Either way, complaining about it isn't going to change the fact. He won it (pretty sure he didn't ask for it, so we can stop "blaming" him) and maybe he will live up to it over the course of the next 3 (or more) years.
ReplyDeleteEveryone has unrealistic expectations, too. Those that didn't vote for him, for some reason, think that he should have fixed everything by now. That's just crazy. Take a dilapidated house for instance. It's taken years for all the paint to weather off, the shingles to be blown off, the wooden porch to rot. Someone new comes along and starts to refurbish it. It's not going to be an easy task and it certainly isn't going to be cheap or happen in a month, either. It's going to take time to rebuild it....basically from the ground up. Why don't we all quit *itching and just wait and see what happens in the future. If things haven't shown improvement, then we get another shot and can vote for someone else. Frankly, it's tough out there and I don't think McCain could speed things along any faster. Remember...the republicans were still denying there was even a problem half way through the election.
He has been showing the world that all US presidents are not like GW Bush or even Geo. HW Bush. Remember HW went after Sadam once and couldn't get him.
ReplyDeleteBradley you are a dumbass!
The first war had nothing to do with getting Sadam. It was to liberate Kuwait. I was there for a year, so quit talking about things you know nothing about.
Just a couple of replies to some of the posters on this issue:
ReplyDelete"My Country, right or wrong" is like "My Mother, drunk or sober."
And:
The Nobel Peace Prize lost all credibility way back in 1974 when it was awarded to Henry Kissinger for the Paris Peace Talks that brought the end of the Vietnam War. Remember what happened in VN and Cambodia after the culmination?
All in all, it was a fitting tribute to a global prize for peace, set up by the inventor of implements of destruction.
Kudos to Katrina!
ReplyDeleteThe whole world loves, or at least respects, Barack Obama; with the notable exception of US Republicans.
I repeat---- at first I was afraid that Obama was a socialist ---now I'm afraid he's just stupid ! (But he speaks well---if that's any consolation)
ReplyDeletethe whole world is laughing at Obama, or they are in his plan to destroy us!!! thats why ever since he went in office his % has done down!!
ReplyDeletemaybe he will win a oscar for acting like a president.LOL
ReplyDeleteYou all better be stockpiling guns/food/ammunition/gold. The brown shirts are going to confiscate your lives and you need to be able to protect yourselves from the end. The obamanation is at hand. You aren't going to be allowed to eat meat anymore. Your kids are going to turn homosexual. You will have to put truck balls on the new prius you are going to be mandated to drive. Palin is our only hope!
ReplyDeleteThany you, spokesman for the lunatic fringe. (Lest you brand me as a liberal conspirator, that term was coined by a great Republican, T.R. Roosevelt.)
ReplyDeleteYou'll be wishing you listened to me when you are drafted into the green shirts so that your family can eat. Palin in 2012!
ReplyDeleteAll that I ask is for people to become more self-responsible and stop expecting the government/their neighbors to pay for their lifestyles. Too many people EXPECT a hand out and it's sickening that people are starting to lose the sense of pride that comes with earning a pay check.
ReplyDeleteLevi:
ReplyDeleteI still have my draft card that wasn't burned some 40 years ago. But are you not concerned with the multitude of Republicans that do not understand the intellectuality of Sarah Palin?
I take Sarah Palin like I do Jesus. Without question. There is only one way to save us from the Obamanation.
ReplyDeleteMost of the posts are intelligent and I enjoy reading them even if i don't always agree with them. I have to say whoever is posting using Levi Jonston, You are a dumbass!!! You are not funny and have not posted anything that is half way intelligent. I will go out on a limb and say that eberyone is really sick of your postings.
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