Monday, August 16, 2010

Greenville school levy fails by 43 votes

The final count was just completed by the Board of Elections. The final tally: for the levy - 2784 (49.62%), against the levy - 2827 (50.38%). The results were not close enough for an automatic recount, though the school district may still be able to request one.

UPDATE: Badge1 has set up an entire website to analyze the levy results. Very interesting.

32 comments:

  1. Keep counting until they get the result they want.

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  2. 3rd time that we the people said no...how much money did the schoolboard spend on these elections...i am sure that sometime next year it will be back on the ballot agian somehow/someway..they need to send out a questionaire and get the publics input on any and all issues first before trying to pass another levy and costing even more money.

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  3. Think of the children. They deserve a new school. We are no longer going to a one room school house.

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  4. What a shame that our citizens let down our children. We will have a new school and it will cost all of us more money!

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  5. Well the old horse may not be dead
    try new food when he is fed
    A different plan like a new pasture
    might make that horse come round bit faster

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  6. the vote they want or the vote they need?

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  7. 37 years to pay for 4 grades is way tooo much money..think of something else!!

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  8. What about the 48 times blank voted. What happen to those votes?

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  9. WHAT A SHAME THAT YOU YES VOTERS TRY MAKING NO VOTER FEEL BAD.....DO IT FOR THE CHILDREN....GIVE ME A BREAK! MAYBE THE ONES THAT DIDN'T VOTE FOR OBAMA SHOULD HAVE WHINED AS MUCH, AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE SOMEONE IN OFFICE THAT LOVES AMERICA AND DOESN’T SPEND SO MUCH TIME APOLOGIZING FOR AMERICA! FOR THE RECORD AMERICA HAS NOTHING TO BE SORRY FOR! STOP WHINING BECAUSE NO VOTERS HAVE NOTHING TO BE SORRY FOR EITHER!!!

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  10. no pitty
    your so right!!
    i am a no voter,cause this issue with the schools are so out of hand.you vote yes and you are a good person and if you vote no you are run down by everyone.so just dont vote!! keep our taxes down.

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  11. Stop beating a dead horse! Stop yelling at "no" voters! Onward and upward, folks.

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  12. This just shows how ignorant people are in this town. Obviously they don't care about the children and now have fun paying more money out of your own pocket to when we get a new school.

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  13. @ no pitty I agreed with you until you started with your Anti Obama crap…

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  14. We need to get rid of this School Board.

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  15. maybe the school board should look at alternative funding options for paying for schools. Ohio is the only state that funds schools through property taxes that are UNFAIR that i know of. tell me the reason a person that has no kids in school and have never had kids whom have worked their entire lives to own a 100k+ home and should pay more than the family with kids in school. most other states that i travel through as i am a truck driver pay for schools based on a LEGAL way of a local sales tax. the method in which Ohio collects school taxes is BOTH UNFAIR AND ILLEGAL.

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  16. Its Obama's fault. He said he wanted to "spread the wealth," so the wealth was spread...to section 8 housing, paying off someone's mortgage who is AGAIN in default, giving college scholarships to students whose mere desire is to party until the money goes away, and funding "front alley" abortions so that people didn't have to use the "back alley" anymore.

    Yay, spread the wealth!

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  17. Amen! I'm so glad someone pointed this out. I wouldn't mind helping to pay for a school, along with everyone else, with sales tax money. The property tax is so unfair and overwhelms property owners. We are not all Walmart. Stop pushing everything on the same people.

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  18. I know families that have taken their children out of Greenville schools, not because of the buildings, but because of the teachers or other kids. They are home schooling their children. How many other people are home schooling? It seems to be the thing to do now. The enrollment is down due to that also, not just people moving out of Greenville, and no new businesses.

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  19. i would vote yes if it was funded other then property tax...i am 45 own a few acres and have no kids..why should i bear the load when in reality i get no use from a new school.you all are screaming..think of the children...why does it take a new multi million dollar school to be taught education in, if we build these new schools are all of the kids going to turn out respectable citizens will they not vandilize and commit crimes then,i doubt it and those same kids will also not take pride in the money we are shelling out for it. one more issue..what about operating cost,i have read and know of several new school sytems that got the new buildings but now cant afford to operate and run them so does that mean another levy on top of it...make it fair for everyone and it will get passed.

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  20. There are now over 29,000 students being home schooled in the state of Ohio now. In another 20 years you will be able to fit all the students in public school in the county into one of the new schools that are in the county.

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  21. You have to love the teachers who complain they cannot teach in an old building. How about they find another line of work? It is far too easy in this country to become a teacher, this is the real problem with our educational system. In some countries you must be in the top 5 to 10% of your class to teach, I would love to see similar standards here. Throw all the money you want into buildings, we are still saddled with poor teachers.

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  22. Anon 8/17/2010 - 7:56 AM

    Please provide a list of the countries with the requirement that you be in top 5-10%; along with reference to allow validation.

    A broad and unfair characterization of the teaching profession.

    I do agree that it is hard to purge a district of non-performing teaachers. However if there is a strong administrative team in place that is supported by the board of education, these teachers can be terminated.

    Its not unusual for organizations to have under performing employees. It is managements responsibility to address.

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  23. Being in the top 5-10 per-cent DOES NOT make you a good teacher. In fact, many of your top students wouldn't make good teachers. There is a lot more qualities needed to teach.
    Most of your top 5-10 per-cent WOULD NOT settle for teacher wages.

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  24. actually I find no fault in the teachers of this district and I'll tell you why. We have lost the standard of coming home and doing homework or reading a couple chapters of a book. you must reinforce what you learn in school at home. A majority of students can not spend 42 minutes in Math class go through an entire day of school then expect to remember what they learned. So then, the student averages all the way to High School, has to take the OGT and ACT OR SAT. we get the results from the State saying we have a large number of kids below or at average levels, we want to blame to the teachers yet sometimes I think it falls back on the Student. Some many times I went to class where 35% or more didn't have homework done... I know Society has changed but education is the same and always has been. In order to learn and remember you must review the information.. ( we have kids taking the OGT 2 - 3 times in some subjects ) I know testing is different but you either know it or don't .

    Those are my thoughts

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  25. A lot of the comments are think of the children. What about the child that goes to school and gets talked down to by a teacher. What about the child that tells the teacher they don't understand and the teacher just walks away. What about the child that asks a question the second day in a row because he may not be the smartest child in class and gets told I told you the answer yesterday. I could go on. What about that child? There are a lot of teachers with a bad attitude and no patience for helping those not able to learn as quickly and remember like some of the others. Would a new school help?

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  26. How about the families of the students and students go out and do fundraisers or go door-to-door for donations? How about all 'yes' voters donate money and time directly? Maybe the teachers are willing to take a pay cut in order to fund a new school. I seriously doubt all of the aforementioned.

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  27. Anon. 11:19 AM
    I'm betting that for some time now the top 5%-10% would settle for teacher's wages, considering they work less than 9 months in a year and that there are no jobs for the top students.

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  28. Great thoughts, Terence.

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  29. I never brought my books home to study if I didn't have to. But, then again, I retained information like a sponge. College - didn't buy a lot of my books and still managed a 4.0, or at least Dean's List, most of the time.

    In all honesty, though, being able to retain information without trying probably set me back a bit because I never had to "try" to get ahead. I just always was. Now out in the real world where knowing someTHING does you no good and knowing someONE does, being intelligent is of minimal worth to employers and apparently my time would have been better spent tossing beer cups out of bedroom windows and fornicating with whoever gave me the seductive wink for the night just in case they were to own a business in the future or knew someone who could get me a specific job.

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  30. I agree the school funding system is flawed along with most of our current funding systems. But who said the world is perfect, it is not. In reading the reasons for and against this project, it seems to me both sides are the product on the “ME” first generation.
    To say you do not have children so you do not need to support education or you are smart but have no value in the work place sounds ludicrous to me.
    • First, you apparently were educated in a building provided by someone that allowed you to have the value to earn enough to have your $100,000 plus home. Be thankful and provide for others as you were provided for. I have never seen a funeral coach with a luggage rack, you can’t take it with you!!
    • The knowledge you have (your 4.0 no work grade point average) when applied to the real world work place creates a value for the business owner and creates a job. Remember unless you are the person who takes the risk and provides a needed product or service you will always be paid and valued on what you bring to the table.
    If you think the current way is wrong get involved and find a better way. Don’t stand on the side lines and criticize.
    Our country was formed by problem solvers! Many citizens are doing just that. Finding a better way for things to been done. That is what we all want,but most want someone else to develop it and get it done for us. That is why, in my opinion we are in the shape we are in!

    I would like to make you aware of the available funding in most Ohio Counties. These funds are not tax base funding, but made possible through participation in the State of Ohio’s Energy Choice Program. Funding in Ohio at this time is generated from the natural gas usage in the state. Electric service will soon be available as well. These funds are available to every organization, only those who choose not to participate will be excluded. This program runs with no additional cost to anyone.
    For more information please research at: www.switchandsupport.com
    There is over 75 million dollars available in Ohio each and every month. That is correct Month! Be clear these funds are being distributed now, but the majority is being taken from the communities in which they were created. At this time, these funds can be redirected back to the organizations that service our local communities needs, such as new school facilities.
    Everyone says, we want safe communities, better schools and if it was not adding to our taxes they would be in favor of it. That is understandable, especially in these economic times. Well the opportunity is here to redirect a huge amount of revenue at no additional cost to anyone who participates.
    My question is this. Will those who say do it for the children, or say if it was a better way I would do it, will you put in the time to claim these funds or will we continue to complain that life isn’t fair and continue to allow others to benefit.
    This program is working its way through Ohio, and 13 other states ,available in 6000 plus markets and Canada the rest of the country will soon follow. There are no politics involved. There are huge amounts of funding available for projects such as the schools current building needs.

    As,the founder of this movement myself and others have for the last two years been to the leaders of several states,cities and school districts only to have the process bogged down in politics. Join a common sense approach and put the available funds to better use before asking anyone to pay more for the programs we all in some way benefit from.

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