Is the American Civil Liberties Union just another terrorist collaborator? That is the question raised by the Investors Business Daily (IBD), a respected national publication. Until recently most Darke Countians were only vaguely familiar with this group and perhaps, to this day, have only minor insight regarding the group’s activities.
The IBD article states “War on Terror: the most dangerous terrorist has a much-deserved bulls-eye on his back but the ACLU is trying to remove it. The group’s defense of Anwar Al-Awlaki is its most subversive move yet. A fugitive al-Qaida leader on the CIA hit list, Al-Awlaki has been fingered as the mastermind behind the FedEx bomb plot as well as the last Christmas’ airline bomb plot. He’s best known for mentoring the Ft. Hood terrorist and some of the 9/11 hijackers.”
IBD continued with “Al-Awlaki, who US intelligence now believes had a direct role in the 9/11 plot, continues to threaten national security.” No surprise that the ACLU has chosen as its lead attorney in the case a Muslim activist who is not even a US citizen.
The following is a list of previous ACLU clients with the most recent included: Anti-Ten Commandments Groups; Pro- Roe vs. Wade groups; Pro-abortionists groups; Anti- Megan’s Law groups; Anti-Adam Walsh legislation groups; Pro-Anwar Al-Awlaki (known terrorist).
As a result of their most recent client addition, we know how we feel about the ACLU. We welcome your thoughts.
Submitted by Charles E. Reier, MD, Rebecca A. Reier
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After 9/11 this country and the Bush administration engaged in a world-wide anti-terrorism plan. This policy has led to the loss of thousands of American troops and to the devastation of tens of thousands of wives, children and families. Pat Tillman, an NFL star, with a multimillion dollar contract, enlisted and died in Afghanistan leaving a widow and children with only painful memories of his greatness.
We have a son commissioned as an officer in the US Army who stands a chance within a year or two of dying in Iraq or Afghanistan fighting terrorism. Thousands of American troops live in circumstances far worse than any homeless sex offender or felon sleeping under a bridge could imagine.
The American legal system, as does the military justice system, provides all defendants with adequate legal defense. Considering the foregoing we find the ACLU providing excessive defense for individuals central to a whole host of terrorist plots including 9/11 is inexplicable. Defending such an individual certainly will undermine the morale of troops fighting in behalf of this country. For those that have lost loved ones in this battle, the ACLU action only adds to their pain and grief.
And the link for the IBD article is: here. ~The Authors
I am sure any Tea Party Member who has a strong belief in our Great Constitution will want to become a member of the ACLU. "So long as we have enough people in this country willing to fight for their rights, we'll be called a democracy."
ReplyDelete-- ACLU Founder Roger Baldwin
ACLU AT-A-GLANCE
• The ACLU's work is sustained by over 500,000 members and supporters who play an active role in defending freedom.
• Nearly 200 ACLU staff attorneys and thousands of volunteer attorneys handle countless civil liberties cases every year.
• Our legislative advocates are a constant presence on Capitol Hill and in state legislatures working on civil liberties issues.
• The ACLU has staffed offices in all 50 states, Puerto Rico and Washington, D.C.
A Great Investment
• For the sixth consecutive year, the ACLU has received a 4-star rating from Charity Navigator, America's largest independent evaluator of charities.
• The ACLU also meets the highest standards of The Wise Giving Alliance of the Better Business Bureau.
The ACLU is our nation's guardian of liberty, working daily in courts, legislatures and communities to defend and preserve the individual rights and liberties that the Constitution and laws of the United States guarantee everyone in this country.
These rights include:
Your First Amendment rights - freedom of speech, association and assembly; freedom of the press, and freedom of religion.
Your right to equal protection under the law - protection against unlawful discrimination.
Your right to due process - fair treatment by the government whenever the loss of your liberty or property is at stake.
Your right to privacy - freedom from unwarranted government intrusion into your personal and private affairs.
The ACLU also works to extend rights to segments of our population that have traditionally been denied their rights, including people of color; women; lesbians, gay men, bisexuals and transgender people; prisoners; and people with disabilities.
If the rights of society's most vulnerable members are denied, everybody's rights are imperiled.
and how does this apply to a man that houses sex offenders a little over 1000 feet from a school in the middle of a residential neighborhood and continues to grow his pocketbook?
ReplyDeleteMore and more communities are adopting restrictions where sex offenders can reside so not to become a dumping ground for sex offenders.
ReplyDeleteA sex offender is more likely to travel to another neighborhood in order to in secret rather than in a neighborhood where their picture is known. Parents look for a safe community to raise their families. Does Greenville want to become a community that is a dumping ground for criminals and sex offenders?
There are people or groups that are fighting for sex offenders rights what about the rights of rape victims who feel violated by sociey, as well.
6:55 First off, how can you take serious anyone who calls the United States a democracy? No where in the constitution, or the bill of rights does that word appear. We are not a democracy, we are a representative republic. There is a distinct difference.
ReplyDeleteSecondly, the ACLU does nothing but try to subvert the US and it's founding principles, all the while wrapping themselves in the flag. They are nothing but a parasite on this country, on our society. You must only look at the wretched examples of humanity, and their assorted groups they constantly strive to defend. Where are they when a 13 year old is told he can't ride his bike with an American flag on it? Where were they when the cross monument in the desert was stolen and vandalized in the middle of the night this past year? Oh, that's right, they were busy defending known terrorist thugs, and pedophiles.
If you have any admiration for them, it speaks volumes on YOUR principles.
ACLU...
ReplyDeleteI am puzzled my contributors who do not cite their sources when making claims about this group or that. I personally find it offensive. It implies a certain level of intelligent incapability that I can not read the sources to either verify, or at least come to my own opinion reading the same sources. Articles within this journal without sources I dismiss as simply opinion and not veracious. Thus, there opinion is equal to another opinion, even one that is opposed. Citing sources, in my opinion, shows intellectual credibility and sound rational argument for honest debate. Without such, opinions are simply unerifiable and emotionally based.
In addition, I am puzzled that this blog cite will run such articles that cannot be verified but legitimize what is said by giving them a public forum. It is disappointing that journalism has stooped this low.
-Jim Vandermark
After 9/11 this country and the Bush administration engaged in a world-wide anti-terrorism plan. This policy has led to the loss of thousands of American troops and to the devastation of tens of thousands of wives, children and families. Pat Tillman, an NFL star, with a multimillion dollar contract, enlisted and died in Afghanistan leaving a widow and children with only painful memories of his greatness.
ReplyDeleteWe have a son commissioned as an officer in the US Army who stands a chance within a year or two of dying in Iraq or Afghanistan fighting terrorism. Thousands of American troops live in circumstances far worse than any homeless sex offender or felon sleeping under a bridge could imagine.
The American legal system, as does the military justice system, provides all defendants with adequate legal defense. Considering the foregoing we find the ACLU providing excessive defense for individuals central to a whole host of terrorist plots including 9/11 is inexplicable. Defending such an individual certainly will undermine the morale of troops fighting in behalf of this country. For those that have lost loved ones in this battle, the ACLU action only adds to their pain and grief.
The Authors
Here is the reference, Mr. Vandermark (which by the way was indeed verified by the Darkejournal).
ReplyDeletehttp://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/553122/201011081919/ACLU-Just-Another-Terrorist-Collaborator-.htm
Investors Business Daily (IBD) November 8, 2010 entitled:
ACLU: Just Another Terrorist Collaborator
War On Terror: The most dangerous terrorist has a much-deserved bull's-eye on his back, but the ACLU is trying to remove it. The group's defense of Anwar al-Awlaki is its most subversive move yet.
Regarding the other positions by the ACLU, simply go to their website ACLU.org and see their positions on the issues mentioned in our article.
The Authors
This obsession with the ACLU has long fascinated me. Please cite references and/or cases in which the organization has broken the law or attempted to re-write the Constitution.
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Journalism? This is a BLOG site, with a posting capability that invites people's opinions...Anyway. The ACLU is awesome, anyone who thinks differently is a commie, I mean a republican, I mean a democrat, I mean whatever. Who cares. Losers.
ReplyDeleteYou need to have lived under a rock for the previous two decades to not be aware of the vermin the ACLU has defended, and to be aware of their extreme leftist views. The burden is not in proving them a fringe radical anti-american establishment, the burden of proof is on those supporting them and their views and giving the American people a reason not to merely discard them as another loony fringe group.
ReplyDeleteThe mere fact they are defending a known terrorist should be reason enough for them to be investigated for sedition if not worse offenses.
The ACLU is a perverse example of political correctness run a muck. They do not represent the founding beliefs of this countries founders, and they most certainly do not have the best interests for this country in their minds.
You want proof or references?
Here they are defending NAMBLA, a pedophile group.
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=4648
Here they are defending the Guantanamo Terror suspects.
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/Articles/ACLU%20Defends%20Guantanamo%20Terrorists.htm
How about them interfering with CIA operations?
http://michellemalkin.com/2009/09/18/aclu-defends-its-cia-paparazzi-project/
Offering items from political oppotunists like Michelle Malkin only prove the one-sided, unproven opinions being marketed as facts. To defend all rights of all people means that from time to time you have to defend pieces of crap. But the Constitution does not limit its protections to just those that are considered worthwhile by one political party or the other. You don't hear about all the "good" people and good causes they defend because it doesn't make for "wow journalism" or in this case, political fodder. Too many people selling "tainted facts" because too many saps are only too quick to buy them.
ReplyDeleteSo you are defending the ACLU defending known terrorists, despite them having plenty of legal defense? You honestly believe they have America's best interest in their thoughts when defending pedophiles?
ReplyDeleteNot too mention, who cares who reports it. It does NOT change the fact that the ACLU did it. Even if the joke that is MSNBC reported it, it would still be true that they defended them, or seek to defend terrorists.
ReplyDeleteI agree, both sides have plenty of FUD, but lets cut the crap and political correctness and call a spade a spade. The ACLU doesn't care about Americans rights, they simply are another tool to further the lefts agenda.
Wow B.E. You have quite the temper. Calm down before the ACLU has to defend you.
ReplyDeleteWho are the real terrorists? I say Bush and Cheney rank right up there! By the way... why did WTC building 7 collapse?? Why was there no response from Norad??
ReplyDeleteTemper? The only temper I get is when I see the ACLU running to defend the scum of the earth, meanwhile ignoring true instances of abuse just to further their agenda.
ReplyDelete9:30... really? Your tin hat is crooked. You are in the ever shrinking number btw since Bush's approval ratings are almost tied with Barry's now. How quickly things turn.
BE... if my tin hat is crooked, your blindness is obvious. Why did WTC building 7 collapse?? There was a fire in a Chinese steel-constructed high-rise. How come that didn't collapse? I guess on 9/11, that was the day to defy physics. Do some research instead of throwing grade-school like insults.
ReplyDelete9:46. I threw grade school insults because your grade school conspiracy theories deserve nothing beyond that. You people have been at it since the towers fell, and yet no one has offered up one shred of irrefutable proof, just a bunch of bogey man conspiracy theories. So yes, it's hard to take anyone serious when they go down that path.
ReplyDeleteGoing by your obviously flawed logic, every steel structure fire should collapse. How laughable.
I love it !!!!!
ReplyDeleteThis is by far my favorite Blog site too bad the whole country don't know about this place :)
you keep talking about ACLU like that and you might just get shutdown lol they hate competition guys !!!
If we are to live true to our principles, we Americans must guarantee the right to a speedy trial and equal protection under the law. That means EVERYONE. So the ACLU defending someone, regardless of who it is, is following the law and the Constitution. I have a much bigger problem when the US holds people in prisons like Gitmo without any type of due process for years on end. I say put them on trial (civilian or military) and then if convicted, give them harsh punishment. When you only hold a trial for, or defend, those that some neonuts hold "worthy" you begin the peril of the slippery slope. Stop listening to "news entertainers" who make up garbage as they go along.
ReplyDeleteBE. What?? Looks like I nailed my opinion of you on the head due to your response. Shred of evidence? That is what's lacking from the top officials of the country! There was no evidence that Iraq had WMDs either. Why did Cheney insist on 'helping' Bush testify during the weak investigation? Why did NORAD not scramble jets after the first plane hit? Where is all of the plane wreckage from the Pentagon crash? Everything around the site in NYC was hurrily cleaned up and no REAL investigation was possible. Why did the 9/11 Commision fail to address WTC #7 in it's report? Building 7 just so happen to be NYC Mayor's command post; along w/ many other intelligence agencies offices...
ReplyDeleteI guess people who search for the truth are bad, huh?? Just as long as it may be unpopular and in many cases painful... Again, it looks like to me YOU have done ZERO research into 9/11 other than what the mainstream media has spoon-fed your tiny cranium! Take a few science classes and form some common sense and then get back to me! Let me know when you form some plausible conclusions w/o neanderthal-knuckle-dragging insults.
Oh, and BTW it's 'boogeyman' not 'bogeyman'. Is 'bogeyman' some golf term? Grade school is VERY fitting par vous!
"There was no evidence that Iraq had WMDs either"
ReplyDeleteThere wre tons of intel reports from the Clinton administration as well as Bush, and from other countries intel agencies as well.
Not to say they were right but about everyone thought Iraq had WMD/s, and they did use WMD's against Iran a few years before, look it up, Mustard gas was one I think.
"Why did NORAD not scramble jets after the first plane hit?"
They did "scramble" fighters, there were only a few ready and none were close.
Your conspiracy theories don't hold any water at all, the wreckage was obliterated at the pentagon, Did you think it was a missile?
If you answer yes then where did the plane and it's passengers go? Did they vanish into thin air?
The investigation they did was not real? what was it? and you can't clean up millions of tons of debris a piece at a time and do it in a hurry.
Try arguing with facts, not nutty conspiracy nonsense.
Another baseless and unresearched reply.. (Nomad)
ReplyDeleteHans Blix led a UN inspection team in Iraq and specifically said that there were no WMDs. Look it up yourself. Bush himself admits there were no WMDs. He even made a joke about the search... Where you are getting your information? Sources? The bottom line was that Bush initially was linking Iraq to 9 11 and I'm sure you bought that lie.
I guess you also missed the part about Leon Mineta's 9/11 Commission testimony where he stated that Dick Cheney told him to stand down defenses during the attacks. Explain that one. There is video of the testimony if you look on Youtube.
I don't have any conspiracy theories. I have common sense and I believe that there are many irregularities in the 9/11 investigation. I am looking for the truth. You apparently just go along w/ whatever Fox or NBC tell you what to believe.
I am saying that there was no plane that hit the Pentagon. Please reread what I wrote or maybe you are confused w/ my typing.
I have yet to have someone explain to my why WTC Building 7 collapsed in controlled demolition fashion. Will you be the first one?
Do some research folks. Watch 'Loose Change' and some other videos of 9/11 on Youtube. Open your mind and seek the truth.
Peace Out
lol 'Loose Change', you're a fool. Go crawl back into your mothers basement and wrap the tin foil completely around your head this time and leave us rational and sane people be. Thanks.
ReplyDelete...and this, ladies and gentlemen, is how a thread about the ACLU coming to Greenville turns into a heated debate about 9/11 conspiracy theories...
ReplyDeletei love the internet.
@6:11. What argument have you proposed that has been rational? I guess you're just another brain-dead sheep. Go back to doing and believing everything that your 'authorities' are telling you to do. LOL
ReplyDelete@Kurt. Another corny and predictable cop-out comment from a small-thinking, small-town dunce.
I guess no one has enough mental capacity or open-mindness to acutally research an 'opposing' view here. What a shame. My expectations are way to high...
12:10, of course, we're all idiots and you're just vastly more intelligent, thank you for alerting us to your genius.
ReplyDeleteYou should be going now, your village misses you.
Did you notice that you are the only one here that subscribes to your conspiracy theory?
ReplyDeleteTo Anonymous 6:38 and Nomad: Like I said... I expect too much out of people. If you can't back up an argument, status quo cop-outs are required. Ignorance is bliss!! Woo hoo!!
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