Friday, June 24, 2011

DCSO Press Release: Standoff With Suicidal Suspect in Gettysburg, Bath Salts Involved

Gettysburg – On June 24, 2011 at 4:45 p.m. Darke County 911 received a call in reference to a suspicious white male running northbound on Horatio New Harrison Rd. from Childrens Home Bradford Rd. The 911 caller advised that the male subject was not wearing a shirt and was claiming that people were chasing him.

Darke County Deputies were dispatched to the area and upon their arrival they located a white male subject matching the description in front of the residence at 7676 Horatio New Harrison Rd. When deputies approached the male subject he pulled a knife from his pocket and immediately put the knife to his throat threatening to kill himself. Deputies realized the potential severity of the situation and immediately called for additional man-power. Negotiators and Special Response Team personnel were immediately activated. Gettysburg Rescue was also dispatched to the area to stand by. Horatio New Harrison Rd. was immediately blocked off. Darke County Negotiators began a two and a half hour negotiation with the white male subject who had identified himself as Jim; later fully identified as James W. Jordan (30) of Sidney, OH.

During the negotiation Jim continued making threats of taking his life multiple times and began showing great paranoia. The Special Response Team was able to position them selves to be able to deploy a less lethal means in order to take Jim in to custody. Negotiators were then able to move Jim towards the team and Jim was taken into custody without serious injury.

Jim was treated at the scene by Gettysburg Rescue and transported to Wayne Hospital. At last report Jim remains hospitalized for further observation.

During the investigation it was learned that Jim’s behavior was abnormal and was later learned that his altered behavior was due to the use of “bath salts.”

Deputies continue to investigate the incident and wish to caution businesses that providing “bath salts” to the public even though “bath salts” remain legal to sell to date, but does not eliminate those businesses from other liabilities.

The incident remains under investigation and will be reviewed further with the Darke County Prosecuting Attorney some time next week.

23 comments:

  1. When a drug addict threatens to kill themself, why are more resources spent to protect this individual from themself. This is an expense to the tax payers to protect someone who isn't paying taxes.

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  2. I agree, let them take themselves out of the gene pool. No big loss, and one less druggie in our communities.

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  3. You two beat me to it. Let them off themselves.

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  4. Human life has no value around here, i guess? What if at the time they have no idea what's wrong with him? What if your brother or son has a medical problem that led to behavior like this, would you advocate simply letting him take care of himself to save you a few bucks?

    Being a hardass is easy when you're separated from the issue and can comment from afar.

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  5. I don't associate with anyone who does drugs, and my family was raised better than that. Save playing the "What if it was your" argument.

    Not everyone is a loser druggie. I have zero sympathy for them, they suck up resources, contribute nothing and are a large portion of crime figures. So the fewer of them there are, the better we're all going to be.

    Another cold but true fact is not all human life is precious, we're not all unique little snowflakes, some people are worthless and their existence contributes nothing to the world other than misery.

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  6. The responders at the scene likely have no way of telling if it's a case of drug abuse or mental illness.

    Again, it's easy be hard and make broad, bold statements from a distance. The distance has nothing to do with if you associate with them. if you have to deal with them, like law enforcement and emergency services do, it's a different perspective.

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  7. Ok, so you find out of their strung out on drugs, if they are, you hand the knife back and remind them it's length ways, and not across the wrist. We do not need to be spending resources to save these losers so once they get out of the hospital they can go right back to getting their fix all the while, not paying the medical bills they ran up, and forcing everyone else to pay for it.

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  8. The drug "bath salts" is a powerful and dangerous drug tha can cause hallucinations. Not only was the person in grave danger from the use of this drug but this situation also put the community in danger. An innocent bystander could have been injured or killed. Just imagine if a person behind the wheel of a car under the influence of the drug "bath salt" plowed into a group of people, or a house.
    Tax payer's money was spent wisely in this situation not only to protect the person from harming themselves but also to protect the community form harm.

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  9. Why should people be forced to pay to prevent a drug abuser from harming himself?

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  10. I repeat my thoughts from June 21st article about bath salts in DJ


    June 22, 2011 7:35 AM
    I will never understand why the state government can't outlaw these type of things and make it effective immediately. Do it today. Our governor could sign it today, and it would be off the shelves by this evening.

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  11. The Sheriff's Office acted appropriately and professionally by diffusing this situation.

    As the press release states above, they only later learned that the person was under the influence of drugs. His behavior could have very easily been due to mental illness. It also states the person was extremely paranoid. If they had simply let him go, as some suggest, and he went on to injur or kill another person who would be blamed?

    Even if he only harmed himself, you can bet the liability would go on the Sheriff's office for "driving" him to do it, or some other nonsense arguement. That certainly would have cost more of our tax dollars than this response.

    Don't misunderstand, I do not like the leeches of society or my tax money to be wasted either. However, bringing this to a peaceful end with no one hurt was the right action.

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  12. Let's see, outlaw everything that is not used properly, I doi believe everything would be outlawed then.

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  13. Far too many people are too quick to jump to conclusions here. Not much is known about this particular case from the article. "Why should people be forced to pay to prevent a drug abuser from harming himself?" What kind of a human being would even ask this question? Is this a Christian attitude or value? I surely think it is NOT. I had never heard of bath salts before they started writing it up in the DJ. Looking it up, there are even raving reviews online about the effects. Kids read this and give it a try. Here is one link where such reviews are housed. http://bathsaltsreviews.com/

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  14. My question is were was he when he used the bath salts. Did he run all the from Sidney to Gettysburg? If so they were right to take him off the streets because he obviously didn't know what was going on.

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  15. Hey Finton, stop assuming everyone cares to live up to so called 'christian values', I'm not a christian so I give a damn about christian values. It's pretty arrogant to assume we all live by your standards.

    I don't want my hard earned money going to keep worthless drug users alive so they can go get another fix. If you wish to work to pay for it, fine, but I prefer not to.

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  16. Blah, you say you give a damn about Christian values. Are you confused? Do you really give a damn or were you trying to say you do not. Reminds me of the people who use the expression"I could care less". I wish you well Blah in your search for the truth. I hope you one day find peace as you seem to be pretty angry.

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  17. I am angry, angry my tax dollars keep these moochers alive so they can keep getting their fix.

    Excuse my typo. I do not give a damn about christian values is what I meant to say.

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  18. Does anyone know when bath salts are going to be illegal in ohio?

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  19. Christian values are not my standards. Decency is. That and compassion is what many posters on this subject lack. Notice I sign my name to what I write. These anonymous posters and assumed names only prove a real lack of backbone and social fear.

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  20. Decency? Decency isn't pouring tax dollars down a black hole to keep the moochers alive who suck off the system like a parasite. Drug users are a cancer in this community. Do you let cancer reside in your body in the name of decency? No, you remove it, and kill it off. The drug abuse in this town is getting worse and worse, so you can sit there and claim the moral high ground to make yourself feel superior while further helping to keep those who are ruining this town around, or you can grow a spine yourself and face reality. If you do nothing to help the problem, you are part of the problem.

    Compassion has it's time and place, this is not one of them. Compassion is what allows these leeches to sit on their asses collecting welfare, while doing drugs to the point they OD, so they get free medical care they never intend to pay for, then are released back on the street to do it all over, meanwhile, the decent people in this community pay for their treatment in higher rates and they pay by the thefts that occur to pay for these animals next fix.

    So if you want to let them into your home, and save them, so be it, but we shouldn't have to pay to keep them alive.

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  21. Making bath salts illegal will do nothing, cocaine, meth, marijuana has been illegal for years and it's only gotten worse

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  22. Anyone that thinks a nanny law against "bath salts" or rather Methylenedioxypyrovalerone is really going to solve anything should think about this, between FB, word of mouth, and a few faked youtube videos, pretty much anyone could get the idiots of the world trying a new drug... We'll call it "candy corn", you get a chlorine tablet for a swimming pool, and then soak it in break fluid and huff the fumes... Anyone that is dumb enough to go out and try that without realizing it creates chlorine gas, well they deserve what ever happens to them... Because like the old saying goes, "the gene pool needs more chlorine"

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  23. For one he is a tax paying man. for two he has been clean prior to this for 5 years. for three he just lost 2 very close family members he is not a junkie this was not like him at all. he is a great man. so he made a mistake a bought something stupid. so does that make it right to say we should let him die. no how can you be so cold about a human being that you really know nothing about. This could have happened to anyone. this story does not portray this man as who he really is. lets not be so quick to jump the gun and say he should be dead.

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