Tuesday, August 10, 2010

It is past time (by Bob Robinson)

Eighty votes.

I wonder what it would have taken to get just a few more people to decide that the safety of our kids is more important than the few extra dollars a month they’d have to find somewhere in their budget. A “yes” instead of a “no” 41 times would have done it.

Only 80 votes kept the district from passing a bond issue that would have taken fifth through eighth graders out of South School and the Junior High and moved them into a new facility on North Ohio Street.
Supt. Susie Riegle said it’s not over until the fat lady sings… there were what, 136 or so provisional ballots that still had to be verified and counted?

I don’t see it happening. Once again, the people have spoken.

To those who honestly had nowhere to find the dollars, I understand. And I understand the hardship they would have experienced if the voters had said yes. Been there done that.

To those who were more interested in punishing the District, the Board, the teachers union, the administration – or just keeping those dollars in their own bank account – than they were the safety or comfort of our future generations, I have a question and a challenge.

Question… have you toured South School? If not, why not? I would be interested in seeing if – after touring it – you think it is a safe, comfortable learning environment for your children, grandchildren or other young people important to you.

I find it hard to believe that anyone who has toured the school would vote to keep our children there.
Okay. So much for that. The people have spoken. So now what?

Challenge… To those who voted against the bond issue, what is your alternative? What do you suggest?
Most, I’m sure, will have no clue. They simply wanted to express their displeasure with the campaign, the District, or whatever.

Sometimes in our displeasure we forget the innocent victims.

Others – the ones who actually gave a reason – often fell into the category I once inhabited. Fix the place up!
I have been told the cost of refurbishing, remodeling and bringing the schools up to speed would run about the same as building a new school. The big difference, of course, is that Big Brother won’t return any of our money to us for refurbishing and modernizing. We’ll have to foot the entire bill ourselves.

I’m sure that those who won’t cough up $10 a month for a new school will be happier to shell out $15 or $20 a month for two old ones. A matter of principle?

One gentleman, whom I consider a friend, is one of those critics. We agree on many things… we have agreed to disagree on this one. He, along with some of his friends, once told me the retired business community had the skills, know-how and resources to “fix” the courthouse. They were even willing to work for free.

Their offer was not explored by our elected officials.


This same gentleman said recently that South could be fixed up for a fraction of the cost of the new building. I’d like to suggest that this offer be made to the school district.

If they can actually deliver on it, I’ll be a happy camper. I never wanted to see that historic building go away in the first place. I don’t believe the Junior High is unsafe but it can be extremely uncomfortable, and they both need to be brought into the 21st Century.

Our children are smart and talented and some of Greenville’s programs, like Wavaires and Auto Tech, are nationally recognized, but these kids also need the educational tools to compete in today’s rapidly changing world.

All of this is whistling in the wind for now. The “people” have said “no” for the third time and we still have hundreds of students in two uncomfortable buildings; several hundred of them in an unsafe building.

The voters say they’ll have to live with the discomfort. I refuse to accept living with a potentially dangerous school environment.

Opening South School to public tours, at least from my perspective, was a double-edged sword. Too many of us have now seen the reality of an overcrowded school that has been pushed beyond its safe limitations.

The cramped spaces, limited access, lack of adequate emergency exits, potential health and safety issues have to be addressed. Now.

The voters don’t seem to understand this. I don’t know what the administration plans for the future, but it now has to take the necessary steps to find safe alternatives for these kids.

It is time to come up with a plan that removes students from South, or at least brings the student population down to a safe level.

In fact, it is past time. Maybe then the voters will get the message.

That’s my opinion. What’s yours?

Bob Robinson is the retired editor of The Daily Advocate, Greenville, Ohio. You can read his comments, opinions and reports at http://opinionsbybob.blogspot.com. If you wish to receive a daily notification of items posted, send your email address to: opinionsbybob@gmail.com. Feel free to express your views.

17 comments:

  1. What do you mean "safety of our kids"? Children need to be taught safety in what to be aware of and what to avoid at home by their parents. When the schools started telling children that their parents can not punish them and to tell them of anything that the child sees as abuse, that is when the schools have overstepped their boundary.

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  2. They needed to build one school for all not just one they would still have the trailers at other locations

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  3. of course, cg, but that isn't realistic right now.

    We'll see if the board can come up with a plan for K-12, although i'm not optimistic that the state will help pay for it. I'm sure voters will turn down a 6-8mil levy.

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  4. They need to have a "plan".....that is exactly the problem they have never had a "plan" completely open to the public knowledge.

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  5. How can you honestly say they didn't have a plan? The plan was well defined and laid out, open to the public.

    The plan was the build a new 5-8 on ohio st, demo south and sell the jr high.

    I'm not sure what part of this was closed or hidden.

    This plan was deemed not good enough for various reasons (many of which i believe defy logic, but i digress), and now the school is going to have to develop a new plan, as the old/current one now seems to be out of reach.

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  6. The people in this community sadden me! Our children now have to suffer! The state was willing to give us money and the community was too woried about their own money(even though it was a low amount of money)and now we have lost that money! What will it take? Maybe some kids getting hurt or even sick? PATHETIC !!!

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  7. They made a mistake in trying to sell the levy as a tax rebate. People did not like that at all, I know because I deal with the public and it was mentioned many times. The senior citizen room too angered people. It was like they think the older people are dumb enough not to see through that. As far as the fees being dropped that only affected people with school age children. All in all the board did a pretty poor job of selling the levy. Forget about it for a while and maybe if the economy improves people might be more accepting. Insulting no voters in forums such as this does not help matters either.

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  8. anon @ 117,

    the fact that the count is so close that it hasn't been called and could force a recount seems to prove otherwise.

    "Tax rebate" was a poor choice of words. Too many people thought it through to understand what they meant.

    Anger over the sr center still confuses me. People wanted to know what is in it for the seniors, so the SB found a way to show that the new building would directly benefit them... and they got mad about it!

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  9. what is up with the senior center tring to get votes from them

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  10. Yes, they had a plan but it didn't sense. What puzzled me and why I voted no was that when the students left the 8th grade they would then attend a high school that wasn't as technology fitted as the jr. high they had attended. Wouldn't it make more sense to either start at the high school and work back. Move the elementary students to the high school and build a new high school-If they had room for a jr. high building wouldn't there be enough land to build a high school? Why didn't the board buy enough land to put all the students in one place-that's what many school districts are doing. When the "word" got out the land was purchased yrs ago thats what I heard was to take place. Citizens of Greenville know that building a jr. high isn't the end of new buildings being requested.

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  11. Correct me if I am wrong but did they not have a plan when they started this entire project. I am going back to when the property was purchased on Ohio St. Were they not going to build 2 buildings on that location? A K - 8 and a Senior High building. This complex was going to include sports fields everything but that got shot down. So they altered the plan. Closed Gettysburg & North buy trailer, become more efficient. Try for a K-8 building. That too failed. Meanwhile chunks of bricks and mortar start to fall from the Jr. High. This had to be fixed immediately. Change the plan go for a K-5. This failed. Change the plan get state and federal assistance. This failed. Change the plan AGAIN Go for a K-5 with state and Fed help add Senior center waive fees. Last chance failed. THEY HAD A PLAN!!! They constantly had to change it because the voters in this town CONSTANTLY changed there reasons to vote No. You either support the schools and the kids or you could care less. Don't create never ending excuses that have no rhyme nor reason to vote no. The excuses have come full circle. Just admit that the majority of people in this town could care for nothing other than themselves!

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  12. Anonymous 5:34 PM: Yeah, you're right, of course. More levies down the road, because every building either needs replaced or refurbished. But, you and I also know we're in a recession. Because of the recession it didn't seem a good idea to attempt to do it all at once. Agreed?

    So, why the middle school and not the high school? Because of the age and deficiencies present in the JH and South, we were offered substantial assistance to build a new middle school, THIS YEAR ONLY. This was our only opportunity, and it was only for the middle school. If we built the high school, we would have received no assistance.

    So, for many different reasons, it looks like we voted down this opportunity. Some of us didn't feel we could afford an increase, some of us were mad at the board for the property purchase, some of us were just plain against a tax increase, no matter the need. And, some of us gave reasons similar to yours.

    Regarding this argument, I can't seem to understand the logic of turning this down just because we have other buildings that also need work. What's wrong with doing some now, when there is a good opportunity, and then doing some later when the economy improves?

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  13. I just want to say I think Susie has done a tremendous job of cleaning up the pieces left behind from former supers and cares only for the children.

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  14. Look!!! the vote was NO quit beatn a dead horse.It was voted down cause it didnt make no sense.The state will give us money for a middle school but not a new high school?Sounds like the state has its head up its ass too.It makes more sense to build a new high school and put K thru 8 in the old high school.Isnt that what the jr high used to be was greenville high?

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  15. Perhaps the anger and resistance we are experiencing over the proposed new school building stems from the question; "what is being done with the current property taxes, State of Ohio income and the Greenville School taxes?" Are we truly getting the bang for our present buck? Difficult questions in a city that is experiencing high unemployment, high property foreclosures, and a higher ratio of senior citizens to school age children. Suzie Reigel inherieted a lead balloon that is getting heavier with our sinking economy.

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  16. I'm just curious as to why people didn't like the idea of a senior citizens center or why everyone thought this was a sneaky ploy to get votes? Wouldn't this have been a nice place for the community to use? Can someone explain why this angered so many people? I'm confused.

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  17. If the school is such an emergency now, there were signs that showed that repair was needed long before now, when the price to repair it was not a steep. So why was it not repaired using funds that exist for that function when it showed the first signs of necessary repairs? Where was the maintainace that should have been done prior to this state of emergency?

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